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13:29 06-09-2005 GMT+02 saat      
I read this book recently: The Teenage Liberation Handbook: How to Quit School and Get a Real Life and Education by Grace Llewellyn.

I guess this book may help explain what I mean. A lot of you may have known of unschooling, and you may disagree with it. But I believe that unschooling is right and possible with present Internet and computer technologies. To save your time, I list a few links as below. You are welcome to express your thoughts or disagreement with it.
http://www.holtgws.com/growingwithoutsc.html
http://www.gracellewellyn.com/index.htm
http://nbtsc.org/index.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cadwell_Holt
http://www.angelfire.com/art/megathink/reviews/generalist.html
http://www.fun-books.com/unschooling.htm




On 8/30/05, Yuanliang Liu <yuanliangliu@gmail.com> wrote:
It looks you are still thinking about designing a learning environment (correct me if I am wrong). For me, I think it is more important and practical to make the real life/world more tolerate of learning so people don't have to spend big junks of time in learning in some fake environments.



As you are trying to design a good learning environment for teaching something, I would agree that some short-term workshop type of learning environment might be useful in learning a certain specific skill. But I also want to point out that a lot of times it is more useful to learn diversely. You can easily understand things deeper after you have learned broadly. Furthermore, if we regard learning as a lifelong process of gaining understanding of self and the world, as a source of fun and creation, learning in "learning environments" certainly shouldn't be the dominant of life.



Thanks for discussion and if I am wrong please let me know.



BTW, business, for me, is just a type of practice. It expose individuals more to people, the world and self.



On 8/28/05, Foley,Shawn <Shawn.Foley@cerner.com > wrote:
Yuanliang,

I look forward to your paper :-)

What I think is most fascinating about your comments is this thought of
a "true face of learning." Computers, laptops, textbooks, and papyrus
aside, what is the true face of learning?

I have been to your blog ( http://iamrebooted.blogspot.com/ ), but (as you
mention) it is focused more on the role of technology in business and
the role that business may have on bringing ideas about life and society
into practice.

I do like your thought that in business we are faced with the real life
and real challenge. This challenge can lead us to thinking about life
and social issues and how we can use our learning in this area to
practice business. I agree, but is this the only context of value? I
believe real life and real challenge can = learning in just about every
context imaginable. Not that this is always easy to design. It isn't,
and requires input from the learners and other stakeholders (for lack of
a better term). I believe that a lesson plan can always have a hands-on,
real-world environment, regardless of the "learning." To do this, the
designer needs to find what it is the learner will "do" with the
knowledge. Then, the action or practice becomes a strong piece of the
learning.

Learning should lead us to "do" something. Learning should encourage
people to work together and promote collaborative experiences. This will
help a learner to further his/her understanding of "X" and lead folks to
the application, active participation, and perhaps, the ability "change"
the world around them. Students today should share in the learning
process as much as possible and be leaders of the learning community.
They should be autonomous and accountable for goals they set. They
should be encouraged to collaborate and network with peers, to celebrate
diversity, and to think holistically when solving complex problems.
Lessons and assessments should drive students to apply and transfer
learning to their lives and the lives of others. Finally, all learning
should be integrated.

I think that all forms of technology can support this type of learning
experience for people.

Shawn Foley, B.S.ED., M.S.I.T. | Learning Architect | Cerner Corporation
| Shawn.Foley@cerner.com | 816-201-6008 (Direct) | 816-571-6008 (Fax)

"I'd rather learn from one bird how to sing
than teach ten thousand stars how not to dance"


-----Original Message-----
From: Instructional Technology Forum [mailto: [email]ITFORUM@listserv.uga.edu][/email]
On Behalf Of Yuanliang Liu
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 6:08 PM
To: ITFORUM@listserv.uga.edu
Subject: Re: laptops vs textbooks

Thanks. To answer that, I would need to write a paper on it. There
are a lot of reasons why I say elearning is going to bring out the true
face of learning, including practical reasons and deep belief. Maybe you
can take a look of my blog:
http://iamrebooted.blogspot.com/
It might provide some answers. I didn't write directly on elearning and
true face of learning. I guess I can write one sometime soon.
Briefly, I think elearning can help us get rid of many unnecessary
things in learning, break the limitations, and allow learning components
being combined freely.
If you have more specific questions, I would be happy to give my
thoughts on them.


On 8/24/05, Foley,Shawn < [email]Shawn.Foley@cerner.com>[/email] wrote:
> >>I believe elearning is going to bring out the true face of
> >>learning.>>
>
> Yuanliang
>
> Fantastic thought! Why do you think that?
>
> Shawn Foley, B.S.ED., M.S.I.T. | Learning Architect | Cerner
> Corporation
> | Shawn.Foley@cerner.com | 816-201-6008 (Direct) | 816-571-6008 (Fax)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Instructional Technology Forum [mailto: ITFORUM@listserv.uga.edu ]

> On Behalf Of Yuanliang Liu
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 11:33 AM
> To: ITFORUM@listserv.uga.edu
> Subject: Re: laptops vs textbooks
>
> Teaching, for me, is just to share learning experience. I believe
> elearning is going to bring out the true face of learning.
>
> On 8/23/05, Jim Beal < [email]bealj@somonauk.net>[/email] wrote:
> > " It is not about teaching, it is about learning."
> >
> > That applies to the whole educational system in general.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dr. James Beal
> > Director of Technology
> > Somonauk Community Unit School District #432 Somonauk, IL 60552
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> > In times of change, learners inherit the Earth, while the learned
> > find
>
> > themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer
> > exists. - Eric Hoffer
> >
> >
> >
> > >>> yuanliangliu@GMAIL.COM 08/22/05 3:59 PM >>>
> >
> >
> > I just want to say that people thinking that technology is going to
> > fantasize teaching will miss the big picture and potential of
> > elearning. It is not about teaching, it is about learning. There are

> > many things that school just cannot teach.
> >
>
>
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from the agile programming

A chicken and a pig were brainstorming...
Chicken: Let's start a restaurant!
Pig: What would we call it?
Chicken: Ham n' Eggs!
Pig: No thanks. I'd be committed, but you'd only be involved!
Chicken: I can't believe he bawked at my idea!

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from the agile programming

A chicken and a pig were brainstorming...
Chicken: Let's start a restaurant!
Pig: What would we call it?
Chicken: Ham n' Eggs!
Pig: No thanks. I'd be committed, but you'd only be involved!
Chicken: I can't believe he bawked at my idea!




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from the agile programming

A chicken and a pig were brainstorming...
Chicken: Let's start a restaurant!
Pig: What would we call it?
Chicken: Ham n' Eggs!
Pig: No thanks. I'd be committed, but you'd only be involved!
Chicken: I can't believe he bawked at my idea!
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